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  1. Peter

    For the curious, the full text of the essay by Steinhardt :)
    Giving you shall receive

  2. Oops that’s right forgot to put that in. Thanks for pointing me to it, Peter, it was really awesome.

  3. Wow… beautiful, thoughtful article, Albert. Thank you - not just for the link love, but for deepening my own understanding of the possibilities of giving.

    And thanks to Peter for the link to the Steinhardt essay!

  4. Hey Lyman, I didn’t do much, just sorta rewrote the original article. It’s a good one yea. Thanks for stopping by ;)

  5. Great article, Albert! I think the great myth that you address here is that there is something “we don’t have.” We have everything, if only we allow ourselves to be so abundant. So when we give what we don’t have, we recognize that we DO have, abundantly.

    The other illusion is, of course, that we are separate from each other. Giving to another is no different from giving to ourselves, because we are One. (Why is it that I’m always commenting on the Law of Oneness on your blog?)

    Blessings,
    Andrea

  6. Great post Albert. You are correct, we do create what we think about. This is a very powerful point, because if we don’t like what we are receiving, we can change our reality by thinking different, more productive thoughts.

  7. @ Andrea: That’s a good way of putting it! I dunno, maybe because I love the law of oneness too! hehe!

    @ Alex: Yes this is a very powerful thing to do, isn’t it? Another way I’ve found is to let go of limiting beliefs, and then naturally our thoughts will be more abundant.

  8. Thanks for this beautiful and inspiring post - you’ve been CPP’d!

  9. Friend Albert,

    Thank you kindly for the link-love. Readers should know that the writings on the Atma Jyoti Blog are predominantly by the knowledgeable and prolific author, Swami Nirmalananda Giri, and that Swami T. just manages the blog.

    About your post, I confess to some perplexity as I began to read about giving what one does not have – a seeming impossibility. But as I read, light began to dawn.

    Many people make the mistake of complaining about how people treat them, and stew in their juices with resentment or misunderstanding. But the law of sowing and reaping must play out – we reap what we have sown in the past, and we reap what we are continually sowing now. So the way out of the cycle is to be skillful in our sowing. If we want people to act with love and respect toward us, we must first sow love and respect toward them. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    This is not a new concept to any of us, but is one which we don’t take to heart. So we learn to give, to be kind, to be compassionate, even when we think someone is undeserving. And we can be extremely surprised at the results.

    One person I know was kind to a real grouch…one might even say an s.o.b… because he thought that the person must be really miserable inside to have such a miserable exterior. To his amazement this had a transforming effect on the grouch, and he began to loosen up and become human(ish). But even if the effect on the grouch had not been immediate, my friend had laid up for himself some reciprocal kindness somewhere down the road.

    Sorry for the ramble. Best of luck!

  10. @ CPP: Thanks for that! :D

    @ Reddy: Thanks for clearing that up. I was a bit confused myself. As per the post, it seems to apply to intangibles like love (as you said) and also things like money, which I tried to de-emphasise because it couldn’t really be proven. With things like love and kindness, though, it’s easy to see. ;)

  11. Great topic. That’s what the Dalai Lama meant when he says, “If you want to be happy, be compassionate.” Your added details help a lot. Thanks.

  12. Albert,

    Yes! Of course, Christ asks that we give from our own surplus since we have everything we need and always will. In your Being is all you need available.Therefore, in BELIEVING this as a fact we cannot possibly experience SACRIFICE.

    Sadly, however, once we give in any way and experience even the slightest sense of sacrifice or loss, we assert that we believe we are “lacking” in some way, we are deficient, we are “little”, etc, etc. When we give from a place where there is no differentiation between having and giving we then experience Being.

    I like where you seem to be going with your writings and your statement “your inner world reflects the outer” seems to demonstrate your deeper searching. I would take your statement a little farther in restating it as your inner world IS your outer world as your outer world is IN your mind.

    I know that’s a bit radical and it certainly cannot be proven, however, if you put it to the test you might be in for a surprise.(I believe LOA, Course in Miracles, Abraham-Hicks, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Ramana, Science of Mind, “Unlock Reality” etc, are all saying the same thing).

    Therefore, as Tolle claimed, what you think the world is withholding from you, you are withholding from the the world - because you are your world!!! and what you reap you must sow or what goes around comes around, etc, etc. It’s all YOU and KNOWING this is referred to by many spiritual masters as “enlightenment.” (Jesus referred to it as revelation or a “revealing” of the truth)

    Keep up the great work!
    Mike S

  13. Barbara

    Albert,

    The most predominant thing I noticed as I read this article and the subsequent comments so far was all the “dawning” that was occurring, including of course my own.

    It seems as it is your own that prompted you to write this for the rest of us.

    Barbara

  14. Beautifully expressed.

  15. Great thoughts Albert. It is easy to give from our surplus, and even everything that we have. But it is giving from where we lack is hard. The woman from the parable was so faithful because she gave from what she didn’t have. I don’t have a lot of focus so it would be much harder to give what little focus I have to someone else.

    Excellent.. even more as I think about it.

  16. Hi Albert,

    Our interior doesn’t determine the exterior world any more (or less) than the exterior determines our interior world. The relationship is decidedly dynamic.

    I understand and utterly agree with the point of the post. One quibble: it could be regarded as bad news by those struggling with depression (as several friends of mine are): just about any care for others they do falls into this category, and they remain depressed. This isn’t to take away from the point of the post - only to point out that it isn’t the whole story.

  17. Barbara

    Evan,

    This may be a bit presumptious of me seeing as how you are the professional but I am one who has struggled with lifelong depression, so we are intimately acquainted. I speak to you from that place about this article.

    My immediate recognition of the lack of ability to give was inevitable. Depression seems to push the depressed to try that over and over, give to receive, as a resource. Trying to do good to generate good. Until they can do no more, for others or themselves. However, three or so weeks ago Albert wrote about the perils of compassion. It was an important first step. This post took that idea to new heights.

    I started an internal search there, with my ability to display compassion in quantity and quality, recognizing that I may do someone harm in offering my help if I was coming from a place that I did not have my own healing complete. And as a depressed person might do, I resigned. Saying to myself, I really don’t want to harm another. Let me get myself in a better place first. Let me make sure.

    Today, as I read, the realization that I have experienced depression for the better part of my life is what helped me see anew. What if depression is going to be something I experience for the rest of my life? Does that mean I am not here to contribute? Aren’t we all here to contribute? Maybe the depression is the key, the catalyst or simply a place of common ground.

    I think admitting that I have nothing to offer, as the man who wanted to be a monk, is what creates a turn of the corner. At least it did for me. And it took away my anxiety (or at least some of it) that what I was offering as help could be that and not harmful or taking more from myself that I may perceive as not being available.

    Barbara

  18. Hey everybody, thank you for the comments!

    I don’t know much about the financial part of things, so I’m avoiding that, I’m talking about the internal qualities of love and compassion here.

    Barbara raised a good point - it got me thinking as well. Does this article clash with the Perils of Compassion? Where I said it’s probably not a good idea to give advice until you’ve been thru the journey yourself?

    I think, perhaps, we have to distinguish between the methods of giving compassion. When you give love, it doesn’t necessarily have to come in the form of advice, or money or physical help or whatever.

    Giving love could simply be a matter of - as the tibetan monk in the lab showed - thinking about it. Or playing with kids - you’re not telling them how to live life or anything, you simply want them to be happy.

    Hmm..hope that makes sense. I’m half asleep and swamped with deadlines, heh heh.

  19. I meant to ask the same question; how does this square with the well-known parable “first remove the beam from your own eye; then you shall see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”? But you have already answered it.

  20. Heh, it confused me as well. I saw the truth in both teachings, and I was “man I just contradicted myself”… and then I realised no wait, not really.

  21. Albert, looks like an opportunity for a synthesis post.. :)

  22. Hah, sounds good mate, I’ll drop you an email now.

  23. Wow, that was beautiful and true. I’ll certainly be reading more. :)

  24. Cyrano

    Great post. Love it, dude. Rings very true too.

  25. Thank you Shaun and Cyrano. :D

  26. What a beautiful post! I feel you are absolutely right about giving what you don’t have.

    In the spirit of giving, here is a link to a free eBook by Puran and Susanna Bair, authors of Energize Your Heart. Here’s a link to a brief meditation that provides an introduction to Heart Rhythm Meditation.

    Toward the One,
    Asatar

  27. Thank you Asatar for the resources, I’m sure the readers will benefit from it.

  28. I am especially taken by the idea that each of us is “duty bound to help with what you do not have.” This reminds me that everything we need is inside ourselves. We simply need to learn to remember what we forgot: that is, we have every reason to believe in ourselves and our potential. We can all express unconditional love and re-discover the power of positive energy and light.

  29. Thank you Liara, yes this essay by Nicolae really is a stunning one, is it not? Cheers!

  30. Albert,

    I’m very impressed with your site and writing! I look forward to reading and learning more!

    Take care!

    Jeremy Neal

  31. Albert, I just read your guest article on Donald’s site and now this. Both of them are beautifully written. You’re absolutely right about the state of abundance and state of lack. When we give what we don’t have, the world becomes a happier place.

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    My Positivity Blog http://positivityhub.com/

  32. @ Jeremy: Good to have you here, thank you for your kind praise! :D

    @ Seeker: Thanks, hope I didn’t shock you too much (I try to tone down the spirituality part when I guest post, heh!)

  33. My favourite on the art of giving:
    (Matthew 6:1) Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

  34. what a beautiful post! it reminds me of two things that are often said in recovery circles: “you can’t keep what you don’t give away”, and “it is weakness that binds us, not strength.”

  35. Wow, beautiful and powerful post Albert!

    I’ve always been a fan of giving that which I seek. But giving without expecting to receive. I’ve been practicing this principle in many areas of my life.

    You mentioned in the comments about money. I’ve put this into practice for my finances.. and as I give consistently, more money making opportunities are showing up at the door. I’ve incorporated this to my budgeting: 5% of everything I make goes to charity.

    Similarly, it’s worked magic in relationships with people. And as weird as it might sound, for blog promotion. :)

  36. @ Craig: Thanks for that quote. Very powerful one - most of our charity is motivated by things like prestige and so on, it’s true.

    @ Isabella: Great quotes as well! You can’t keep what you don’t give away, how true.

    @ Tina: Thanks Tina, good to see you again! That’s the thing about these metaphysical laws isn’t it? You never know why things happen, so I don’t write about them much - but it’s awesome that you’re providing evidence for it. Thanks!

  37. You made it true. Yes I believe you made our hearts true to find out the real meaning of Christmas.

    Good job. Keep it up.

    I wish you a Happy Marry Christmas.

  38. Hi Barbara,

    Just to clarify. I am no professional.

    If I was (and I think professionalism is part of the problem not part of the solution) I would ensure that what I said came from my own experience or from the experience of those I know. The theoretical foundation has its place but it is modified by our experience rather than the reverse.

    I like the spirit of this piece, when we are centred we can invite others into an ‘empty’ though welcoming space. I think professionalism is the opposite of this spirit - having to do with mastery and such.

    Sorry for the rant but it is a very important issue to me.

    I trust that you are finding that depression can be your friend.

    Many thanks and as much love as I can send through this medium.

    Evan

  39. Albert, one thing that I have learned is that we often teach that which we ourselves need the most to learn. Thanks for sharing this wonderful article.

  40. That’s definitely true Patricia - all these emails came at exactly the right time. I do find myself withholding from others once in a while, from fear of lack - the thought that the success of others somehow takes something away from me. This lesson really helped me curb such selfish tendencies.

  41. Great article Albert. My favorite line was: “Give out whatever you think people are withholding from you. And soon after you start giving, you will start receiving.”

    I have experienced that this is true. For instance, sometimes I feel unloved and unappreciated by my parents. However, when I do something special for them, even just writing down how they’ve influenced my life or special thoughts I have, I find the flood gates open and their love pours out.

    I’ve only been blogging for 5 months, but it has been long enough to see that whenever I need an answer, or feel stupid, unwanted or lonely, I can write about what advice I’d give to someone else with that problem, and find the answer to my own situation. It works so well, I’m almost using it as self-therapy. :0)

    It’s also important to focus on what you want in life. If you want loneliness, problems and pain, look and you will find them. But if you want inspiring folks working to make other people’s lives better, or tips on finding the upside of every situation, you will find that as well.

    Thanks for a great thought-provoking post. :0)

  42. Hey Shirley, thank you!

    It’s interesting you mention that blogging gives you the answers to your own problems. Just a couple days ago I suddenly felt very poor and very insecure about my financial situation…and then I remembered this very post, and decided to put it into practice. It’s really true how blogging reflects your own life, isn’t it? And it gives you just what you need, sometimes.

    Thank you for stopping by, I’m grateful for it.

  43. Hey Albert,

    Simply awesome stuff. Also, was exactly a discussion I was having recently on the art of giving as well… brilliant.

    I have featured it in the blog carvinal also.

    Cheers,
    Anmol

  44. Thank you Anmol, you rock! I’m happy to have you here, as always!

  45. Thank you for your valuable contribution to the latest edition of the Living by Design’s Personal Development Blog Carnival. Your post has been included and posted here:

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    with best wishes
    Ananga

  46. Thank you Ananga!

  47. Woooow… that was deep. I always like to give because it feels so rewarding but harder to give what i don’t have. Plus its the thought that counts!

  48. Thank you Gift Baskets! Glad you liked it :D

  49. I love the principles or abundance, gratitude and our inner creating the outer. Reading your post I think I’m starting to realise just how strongly these principles are connected to giving. Thanks for the perspective.
    I found you via the Carnival of Australia and I’ll definitely be back :)

  50. Thank you Alison! :D Glad to have you here.

  51. what i don’t have to give at the moment is trust to housemates who keep letting my pets out, break my stuff and don’t replace it, and skip out on rent and electricity etc.

    this woman has two kids, a trail of poor rental referrals, drug abuse issues and anger management issues- not all of these were obvious to me when after a month of knowing her i offered rooms at my home- they had recently been living in different peoples living rooms.

    after giving her two weeks notice my dogs were let out again, the downstairs area locked off so i could not get in, and no word to where she was or for how long. one jigsaw-tool later i was able to start showing the rooms to others.

    the following three days were all threats, txt abuse and her wanting me to be responsible for her place in life at the mo. i so lost trust in her~ i moved her gear carefully into my garage and put on a combination lock and txt her the combo; today i will cover with plastic as the rains are here again and the garage has yet to be tarred; i have reminded her boyfriend (who came to apologise) that we are friends, she is not the person i know at present, and that without the dramas her stuff can stay here-safe.

    i think i am giving what i don’t have, i am trying to be aware of when i feel superior to her through this, that she is just being ungrateful. i will read your blog again tonight.

    i do not want to be a stumbling block to others. i do not want to give her reasons to lose hope in friendship, community or herself.

  52. Hey Char, thanks for the story. I really don’t know what to say, but I know you’ll pull up fine with this one. She sounds like a nightmare!

  53. she is in a nightmare phase certainly. at the mo she is not the warm hearted, giving and forgiving woman i have come to know. you said it all with your post…what i don’t have is trust in her ability at this time to not to take things out on me (i am one of the safe people in her life who does not take from her, maybe there is some mother-child acting out going on here on her part :-). so I will practice trusting her to walk her talk that she speaks when she is not in “survival” mode and weighed down with life’s challenges.

  54. Char, you sound like a great person! I think she’s lucky to have you in her life, especially at such a difficult phase of her life. :D

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