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  1. Cyrano

    Hey Al, thanks for the link! I enjoyed your post as well… it is a detailed breakdown on guilt that I think would help with my blogging articles as well. Cheers!

  2. Hey there Cyrano! Wow you’re fast, I just posted this! You’re very welcome.

  3. Hi Albert,

    A few comments (which may be just being picky).

    I’m not sure that ‘overcoming’ is the best word. Perhaps ‘understanding’ would be better.

    If we couldn’t have done anything else doesn’t this applying to feeling guilt as well.

    If awareness if awareness brings control then we do have a choice and we can do otherwise. Doesn’t this mean that awareness means guilt is possible.

    If we can do nothing else then why ask us to end guilt?

    Guilt may provide the motivation to make amends, not just beat ourselves up. I don’t think guilt is bad - it depends on our response (which we choose to make - we can do other than beat ourself up when we feel guilty).

  4. Hey there, Evan!

    Awesome questions, I was expecting holes in my post (one of the reasons why it took so long to write - I tried to cover everything but knew there were still a few in there).

    Yes we couldn’t help but feel guilt as well - until we realise that it is guilt, and that we have a choice, i.e. our awareness is high enough to recognise it for what it is.

    As I mentioned, we only do our best according to our level of awareness. Once we realise that we are feeling guilty, that is when we have a choice to stop. It might not be immediate (covered in part 2, coming soon!), but at least there is a possibility.

    Which was why the first exercise was recommended. When we think back to the time, with our hindsight, we can see the emotional patterns arising, and that gives us the possibility of not falling into it. Same thing with our guilt. The benefit of that exercise is being prepared for the arising of the old pattern. When it happens right now, we are often unprepared for it, and it takes over completely, obscuring this awareness.

    I think we should notice a difference between guilt and repentance. Guilt is constantly beating ourselves up. Repentance is trying to make amends.

    I’m not sure what you mean by this sentence, though? “Doesn’t this mean that awareness means guilt is possible.”

    Thanks for the stimulating comment. Hope my reply makes sense.

  5. Albert,

    Thanks a lot for the link. I feel this post was aimed squarely at me.

  6. stella

    Once again, your post reminds me of the table of Hawkins’ levels of Consciousness.
    Guilt, there, is in the range of weak attractor fields: it is not necessary in growth of consciousness.

    When I came to overcome guilt, it was by divine love I felt through another human being. It was the kind of Love the Greek named “agape”, not the other two kinds of human love. This human being was in such harmony with God’s power, that he was able to be His conductor. - It had happened only through words typed as these: We never (have) met (yet). It was kind of awakening, I awoke a bit. Afterwards, I’ve been more and more awake and was able to perceive Love more and more. And to see more and more that we *are* without fault, but often in a dreamy state. (I’m sure I’m still, somehow, hoping to awake more and more.)

    This kind of guilt-feeling must be a Western-culture-thing, it is not found in other cultures, I think. For instance, Jesus never said that *he* was there to “pay for our sins”, he said: “you ARE forgiven”, there is no place for guilt, only for love, and for going on, going on, going on. Jesus was one of those that showed the way, the way to freedom: seeing the Truth is what sets us free. So, let us go on, on our way to seek Truth.

    thank you for naming guilt.

  7. Albert,

    This is one post with which I will have to respectfully disagree. Of course, it all depends on how a person defines guilt. If you mean constantly brooding on your faults and mis-steps, then you are right. Brooding alone can be negative and non-constructive.

    But you stated, “Guilt is the false idea that you could have done better; that you had the power to choose. But if you look deeply into it, you will see that you were helpless. There was simply no choice.”

    I am surprised to see this written by you, as it seems to contradict other things you have written. Are we helpless? Do we have no choices in our lives? Are we slaves of fate? If so, we have no responsibility, we cannot improve ourselves. I am sure that you did not mean this!

    Guilt is the inner voice of our conscience that we could have done better, that we did have a choice, that we can come to a higher standard both within and without.

    Guilt, of course, should not apply to wiggling our feet, or other petty events and traits in our lives. But with the bigger things in our lives, guilt, taken in a correct perspective, can be a life-saver, a soul-saver.

    I hope you take my contradiction in the right spirit.

  8. Hi Albert,

    Great article - this really has got me thinking! You know, I’m not entirely sure that guilt is useless. Like any other emotion, it is information. It is information, for example, that we need to shift our behavior in the present and future. As such, it can educate us about the growth we desire for ourselves.

    I agree with you, though, that it can sap our energy. If we allow guilt to take over and we practice endless self-flagellation over something we cannot change now, then we are truly stuck in the past.

    I do think that we can transmute guilt into a powerful force for positive change if we acknowledge and recognize it, forgive ourselves and shift our course of action. Easily said, right? Not so easily done … like you say, the key is awareness!

    Thanks for the inspiration!
    Blessings,
    Andrea

  9. Diane

    Another Great Post, Albert! Thank you!!
    As I read your post, two thoughts came to mind:

    THERE’S A HOLE IN MY SIDEWALK
    Autobiography in Five Short Chapters
    By Portia Nelson

    Chapter One
    I walk down the street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
    I fall in.
    I am lost …. I am helpless.
    It isn’t my fault.
    It takes forever to find a way out.

    Chapter Two
    I walk down the street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
    I pretend that I don’t see it.
    I fall in again.
    I can’t believe I am in this same place.
    But, it isn’t my fault.
    It still takes a long time to get out.

    Chapter Three
    I walk down the same street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
    I see it is there.
    I still fall in … it’s a habit … but, my eyes are open.
    I know where I am.
    It is my fault.
    I get out immediately.

    Chapter Four
    I walk down the same street.
    There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
    I walk around it.

    Chapter Five
    I walk down another street.

    And a phrase often said by Ms. Oprah Winfrey came to mind:
    “When you know better, you do better.”

    I think guilt is a result of awareness and regret. It is neither good or bad. It is a signal, and perhaps an impetus to make amends, let go, and move on.

    I also take exception to Vitor’s comment in that he is not alone with the feeling this post is aimed directly at/to him; I feel that I am also in the running for that honor. ;-)

    Keep it coming, Albert. ~Diane

  10. Wow, what a synchronicity: a friend and I recently discussed the topic of guilt and the different types of guilt feelings and here’s this article!

    We felt that there were two types of guilt: one that you feel when you really did mess up, and one that you feel when you *think* you messed up on the outside but actually comes from your perception that you’re not living up to some very high standards. Standards that might not even be yours. So that makes it the useless guilt that hurts.

    For the first type, a sincere apology clears the air and the mind and can draw people closer together. For the second, self-hating guilt zaps your energy and draws you down into depression, thus blocking opportunity for growth and from letting go. It’s cleared through self-love and forgiveness and finding your own core values. But sometimes, it’s hardest to forgive ourselves.

    I’m intrigued about the genesis of the helpless feeling. Is it learned? Is it simply that we’re blocked by out of control emotions and therefore can’t see answers (like the beach ball analogy)? And what about things that happen to children–what level of empowerment do they have? I suppose that would depend on the type of family environment, whether kids are raised to feel a sense of competency in problem-solving and those who are raised with a sense that they can’t solve problems.

    And building a little on what Stella said about Western-based cultures feeling guilt: there’s a difference between shame-based and guilt-based cultures. Countries with a Puritan legacy seem to tend toward guilt-based thinking, with many feeling like they’re not measuring up to high standards. However–there’s been a major shift toward the “end of guilt” feeling, with more people refusing to living by standards that aren’t theirs and working on self-acceptance and development based on their own core values.

    Thanks for another thought-provoking post.

  11. stella

    In regards to another comment, may I add:

    In a sense, we have the one choice each time: committed to truth or to lie; we have none if we *are* in a dream-state and do not see the lie, and we have none if we *see* the world as it is (I am not yet there, I do not know if ever this life time I will get there) then we have no choice because we just know what to do and we just do it.

    But in order to see *some* truth, we must have a practice to step back, to see the situation from a mental place where we are slightly distant from the scene.

    And for what it’s worth and if it’s allowed, I will quote some words of another which do not need any further comment on my part.

    < <<<<<
    ...when false beliefs find their way in,
    we can know them because of the "friction" the energy they give off
    creates inside, guilt. If we are ready, we can then recognize them as
    lies. If we are not ready, we will try to believe the guilt comes from
    something else (usually something we look back upon as a silly notion.)
    In this way, we know the truth and the truth sets us free, as the old
    saying tells us. Free because while we believed falsely, an energy
    expressed itself through us without any consent by us (other than the
    implicit consent derived from our allowing ourselves to believe
    wrongly.) Neither did we have control over ourselves. But as the lies
    become exposed, we are restored to a peaceful state where we once again
    can choose.
    >>

  12. @ Vitor: No problem, mate! :D

    @ Stella: That was amazing to hear! And the whole Jesus / guilt thing is very interesting, I have got to read up more on it.

    @ Reddy: Thanks for the comment. No, I didn’t mean we were all helpless zombies. We were helpless according to our level of awareness.

    We might know that it’s wrong to shout, for example, but when our anger arises, is our awareness high enough to catch it before it takes over? Throughout the entire blog I have said that improving ourselves can only come from a change in awareness / consciousness. And this is the reason why.

    Guilt is simply beating yourself up. At the very last section, I put in clearly that a healthy man learns from his own mistakes, and not beats himself up for it.

    Hmm…this part was probably not written clearly enough, or emphasised enough. I might have to go back and change it.

    @ Andrea: Thanks! I think the key is, in the last section. A healthy response is to learn from the mistake, and not to beat yourself up.

    @ Diane: That is a great poem - and is very close to what I was trying to communicate.

    @ Kirsten: The helpless feeling can be taken in two ways - one, that we are weak and should just give up. Two, that I was not at fault in the way I think.

    I gave the example of shouting at my friend at the end of a stressful week. If I continually beat myself up, then that was wrong. But I looked at it, and I saw that I was helpless - my awareness was not high enough to stop the anger from taking over. So that is the “good” sense of helplessness, in that it allows me to stop hating myself. From there, I learn from my mistakes, and resolve to become more mindful.

    @ Stella again: Go for it, I love having discussion here!

  13. Albert, you’ve done a great job describing this.

    Guilt is born the moment we know better. Guilt is created the moment we think back, the moment we see the hurt we have caused.

    You could also say, guilt is born the moment the past is projected onto reality (or projected into the present).

    Guilt is dependent on memory (on the past). And it is dependent on the projection of those memories.

    One can’t experience guilt without the idea of something better. I should have done this instead, or I could have done it this way. But is any of that true?

    The only reality regarding the past is what happened, not what could have or should have happened.

    When we see the reality of our actions, when we see the reality of the past as it is, without embellishment, then we may be able to take right action in the present.

    Great post.

    Takuin

  14. Guilt, like blame, can keep you stuck in the past rather than living in the present. We can’t change the past, only the present. Instead of blaming and feeling guilty, change your present behavior so there is no need to feel guilty again. Use the awareness of guilt to change present behavior so you don’t fall into the trap of guilt again.

  15. Giving up guilt is letting go of the wish for a better past! What is done is done and the mistakes we’ve made have made us better and wiser people in the present.

    That was so generous of you to give me so much wonderful link love and the great plug on my article which I hope will help some widow - or widower - by knowing they are not alone. I am in love with the Urban Monk!

  16. Wow everyone. You’ve really expressed well, some things that I struggled to put into words. Like I always say, the comments add more value to the blog than the actual post does, and this is proof! Thanks!

  17. To me, guilt is a wise teacher. It can help us to understand why we make deliberate choices, what we presume is missing inside, and where we need to go within ourselves to re-align with positive feelings. Our thoughts bring us great value if we choose to explore the underlying reasons and emotions that influence them.

    To quote Ross Bishop from his book, Journey to Enlightenment,

    “Emotions are different from feelings, and the difference is important. Feelings emanate from the God Space. They come, you hold them for a short time, and then they pass on. All you have left is the memory of having the feeling. But with an emotion, a feeling comes and you make a connection through the present experience to a previous event, which is usually, but not necessarily, unresolved hurt.”

    An emotion like shame or guilt remains alive inside you until you learn to explain and overcome the unresolved pain of its causes in your past. Emotions are like a protective mechanism to distract you from feelings that enable you to feel good. It may seem ironic, but understand the ego and learn to transcend it, then rise to higher levels.

  18. Hey there Liara, thanks for the comment. I agree with what you are saying here. I think I made the mistake with this article of splitting off the repentance bit, leaving that for Part 2. The way you and Ross have described it is fantastic, and will add a lot of value to those who read the comments section.

  19. I agree with what some of the other commenters have said. I don’t think guilt is entirely useless. I think it has a purpose, if only very briefly. It serves as a great reminder that you have done something wrong, and it creates a very unpleasant sensation that you’re not likely to want to repeat. For that, I value at least acknowledging it and spending a few moments to think about it before moving on. I agree with you that it shouldn’t rule your life or linger, though.

  20. Hey there Ginger! Definitely, you’re right. Recognising that you are wrong is an important first step in changing your behaviour, but like you said we shouldn’t let it be the cause of endless self-punishment. Please stay tuned for the second installment in this series. :D

  21. Yeoux

    Guilt…now that’s a word. This past week I have been engulfed by guilt. I got a staph infection after taking a fall, after drinking to much about 15 days ago. So, guilt lead me to silence, which lead my scrap to infection then to cellulitis and eventually to loosing 5 days of work, eating crow and having to confess anyway. Were it not for my parents and sister, i would feel much more guilt and less remorse. Now, I suffer from shame. My job this week will be to continue to get well and eventually get back to work. So, yeah, guilt can change the course of history and the course of choice for each of us. Guilt, what is guilt? Why does it affect me so and What can I do to get out of its clutches?

  22. Hey there Yeoux, thanks for the comment and for sharing your story. As to how to overcome guilt, my very next article is how I did it, hope it will help.

  23. Becky R

    Hello, thanks, I thought theis was a very powerful article! Take care

  24. Hey Becky! Thank you very much :D

  25. I just really wanted to thank you for writing this article. I been going through some tough times recently, as we all have, and I’m just so tired of putting the blame on myself for anything and everything that goes wrong. I always feel guilty and rarely feel happy- Even when I do feel happy I find some way to feel guilty. This article helped spread some new light on the issue. It taught me that there is a better way-to move on and stop living in the past. This is exactly what I needed. Thanks again for helping me out.
    Ryan

  26. Hi there Ryan! Wow, it is fantastic to hear that you are making some progress on this issue. There is a part 2 to this series, please have a look at that. It might help some more. Good luck, I know you can make it!

  27. I’d like to second Ryan’s thanks for writing this article — it’s often difficult to not blame yourself for things that happen, even when they are outside your control.

    Even with things like an illness, it’s often tough not to think “did I do something to deserve this?” But such thoughts are just useless (as you said). It’s better to focus your energy on solutions, rather than blame.

  28. It never occurred to me that people feel guilty about becoming sick when I wrote this article, but the more I see the more I realise that people do blame themselves for all kinds of things out of their control.

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