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  1. We shocked a car salesman once by saying NO. We had ordered a car with a stick shift, but when it came they phoned and said there was a mistake, it came with an automatic transmission but there would be no extra charge because it was their mistake. So we went down and saw our beautiful new car while they estimated the trade-in value of our old one. It took a long time, presumably long enough for us to fall in love (which I did). Then when we went in to pay they just gave us the total price, which was more than we had calculated. When we forced them to break the price down it turned out they were trying to make us pay an extra $1000 for the automatic transmission. We said no, just order the one we had asked for. It turned out it took us a total of 6 months to get the car, and in the end the dealer said they hadn’t made any money on it because their incentive had expired. I sweetly said, “Well, it did take six months.” Needless to say, we never went back to them. But I still cherish the look on the fellow’s face when we said no.

  2. Hey Jean! I loved that story, it was funny, especially the last sentence!

  3. Thanks Albert,

    A good post.

    Would you like to do a follow up one on ‘defending yourself against the social selling techniques’?

  4. Hey Evan! Good point, I didn’t realise I hadn’t gone in-depth on the “defense” part… I guess knowing what techniques are being used on you would be good enough. I would just say walk out of there if you know what they are doing…

  5. And so…… Dear Albert, have you ever used this technique in
    say a BAR setting ? :)))))))))

    The thought crossed my mind and I just HAD to ask. wink

    xo xo
    Deb

  6. Hannelie

    I got a phone call last week asking if they would please have 30 seconds of my time. The woman sounded friendly so I agreed. Afterwards she told me that I have been selected for a price and that I need to go the this 5 star hotel and collect it - no lengthy presentations, this is not timeshare etc… they fax me my invitation which also gives you the impression that they will be serving snacks etc. “Just go collect your price and enjoy the evening” Everyone told me that it is a trick but I did’nt believe them. They were really convincing!! Well in the end you had to stay for an hour presentatios, sit uncomfortable chairs and they only gave you a cup of coffee. I left soon after I arrived and was extremely angry and I also confronted the director who was there. But I learned my lesson. O’ I was so gullible!!

  7. @ Deb: Hehehe, I can just see it happening in a bar, although I’ve never tried it myself. “How about you be my love slave for a year? No? OK, just one night then.”

    @ Hannelie: Heh, sounds almost exactly like what is going on here in Australia - maybe all these companies use the newest “developments”, or are trained from the same manual.

  8. Albert,

    I don’t know if you noticed the technique during that call, but telemarketers are also trained to state everything they want from you as a detailed prompt, followed by “Okay?”

    If you want something from someone, the most effective way to get them to take the action you want is to present it to them in such a way that all they have to do is say “Okay.”

    This is not entirely a “shady” tactic - I recommend it regularly to people concerning relationships and most recently Joint Venture Proposals. Do as much of the work in presenting what the course of action will be so that all the other person has to do is Agree.

    Rather than approaching someone with “Will you help me with this project? When should be launch it? How should we do A, B, and C?” Try “I have an idea. Here’s how it will work. Here’s what I need from you. Okay?”

    People naturally want to say Yes.

  9. in this capitalist world, people would do almost anything for a buck. well for me I just hang up if i get any calls from telemarketers. and I make my own mind up when purchasing stuffs. :D

  10. I feel so.. Textbook

    This is a great post Al- it put a name to the techniques I sensed existed everytime I felt pulled into something I didn’t want somehow. And darn it, the principle of reciprocity gets me everytime without fail. Argh!

  11. @ Slade: Hmm…I’m not sure if my memory is playing tricks on me, but I think you’re right. I remember them bombarding me with a series of real quick requests that made it too fast for me to say “no”. That’s a fantastic addition, thanks for that!

    @ Suicidal: Hah, agreed! I used to try and be polite to them, knowing they’re just working in a job like everyone else, but they get so pushy sometimes you just have to be firm.

    @ Jemi: Thanks mate! I get hit by all these techniques, reciprocity in particular as well. Hope this post makes a difference though ;)

  12. Cyrano

    Great post. I could see how this would fit onto my blog, but nonetheless, props to you for coming up with something great as usual. Cheers man.

    - CY.

  13. Albert,

    I really enjoyed this blog. Why? Because of the square look it takes at people. Although we like to look at people from the aspect of their higher natures, they usually haven’t come to such a high perspective. Let’s face it, divine nature or not, most people are functioning at the level of Jerk 101. And we have to have a balanced view of them which includes both their higher potential and their actually manifest jerkiness. Otherwise we are living in the clouds.

    There is a great book called “How to Cure Yourself of Positive Thinking”. (I can’t find our copy to tell you the author.) In it the author tells of how to deal with the realities of life and of people’s short-comings. An objective appraisal of life can be disappointing at times, but saves us a lot of misery.

  14. Great blog. You offer tasty morsels of food for reflection.

  15. @ CY and Liara: Thank you :D

    @ Reddy: Hey mate, that Jerk 101 line really made me laugh. You are right, of course - many personal developers tend start living in a little fantasy world, which of course makes things more painful. I don’t really know what the right course of action is sometimes, but I think until you reach a certain level of self-regard and understanding, it is best to avoid negativity. It is only when you have reached that level, then it is time to be compassionate and see others as angels - flaws and everything.

  16. Great post. Was really nice to read it.

    I’ll look forward to the next.

  17. Albert:

    This is by far, I think, one of your best articles! As I read through it, I found myself reacting to it from a deep, emotional perspective. Images of pushy salespeople and telemarketers flowed through my mind, based on past experiences.

    What a great and very enjoyable article. I simply had to stumble it and I hope you get lots of traffic because of it. You amaze me with the stuff you come up with. :)

  18. Barbara

    Albert,

    I have to say, this article surprised me a bit as I looked at it surfacely. I’m not sure why, but I think I found out as I let it sink in. Maybe the comments helped me go a step further, as I heard myself saying similar things.

    It is true that pushy, deceptive sales people can be horribly annoying and in some cases cost us time and money we were not prepared or intending to spend. I have been defrauded and it is no fun. In fact, consequences can be devastating. There is no denying that.

    It struck me momentarily that these techniques have so much going for them, yet that’s not at all how they are generally used. Slade was right about our natural desire to say yes. I paused to re-think the initial shaking my head in agreement. Several resultant things occurred to me.

    First was the “blame” on those salespeople. I’m certain there are many a salesperson who have genuinely bought into getting the most from customers, playing on their vulnerability and good, true nature. I think there are many more however that need jobs, and then have to set their values aside and do what they are trained to do for survival. In my own life, I’ve held jobs that I had to do what I didn’t endorse.

    So second, if there is to be “fault”, then let it be on a society with a hierarchy dictating that behavior. Deliberate attempts to take advantage of what is good and in so doing manipulate folks who are just trying to make a living, have a life. So it is both saleperson and customer. It is unfortunate that the culture’s direction ever took this one, instead of creating environments with more natural choices for people to make. A place to promote their goodness.

    Being in a situation where choice can seem limited is the majority experience. The truth is, many are now seeing those limitations and choosing to change on a very personal, one-at-a-time level. Including what is presented by so many, as demonstrated in blogs like yours, Albert, and your many blogging companions. I hope I don’t forget that wave of change is still the minority.

    Honestly, as harsh as those salespeople can be, I think I was equally harsh in my judgments until I stopped to think about what I was doing. And it can’t be much help in the long run. Then, neither was I at times.

  19. First of all, thank you for your kind compliments Supreme, Stephen and Barbara, they’re really high praise. I thought I’ve been neglecting the “urban” side of the the blog title and decided to test the waters, not sure how my readers will receive it, but it seems like it has been taken well, so thanks a lot ;)

    @ Barbara: That was a very deep look at the surrounding culture and the motivations behind it, and I was blown away by it. You’re right, of course.

    I think I accidentally did salespeople a bad rap in this article, I wasn’t really trying to knock them. Part of it was a respect for the kind of skills they had, and also because they are the ultimate examples. I was probably annoyed at having gotten fifteen unwanted sales calls a day for the past 2 weeks. Maybe that annoyance came through in the post, I don’t know :D

    There probably is nothing wrong with these techniques. As Slade said, they’re not necessarily shady. Like fire, it just depends on how you use them. Do you burn a house down or do you boil water? We’ve all likely used them at one time or another without knowing it. I used the Door in The Face technique as a teen with my parents quite a few times when asking for some pocket money, heh.

  20. Thank you for this post, Albert

    When I receive a call from a telemarketer, I’m sometimes torn between feeling annoyed on one hand, and knowing that the person calling me is trying to make a difficult living on the other hand.

    I usually thank the person for ringing and say quite firmly, “I don’t have time for this.” Then I hang up.

  21. Hi Mary, thanks for the comment. I know exactly how you feel, I used to get annoyed until I had to do what they did for a bit. When I started my first business, I took a business planning course, and one of the things we had to do was a survey to see if our product is viable. And they wanted us to do a phone survey… it really put me on the receiving end, hehe.

  22. I am always learning something new when I visit your blog. Cognitive Dissonance, is definitely one of them.

    I also like the way you blend your advice along with your personal experience. Good stuff!

  23. Thank you Shamelle! I’m glad you like this writing style, I’ve been experimenting with a few and testing the responses ;)

  24. Hi there - what an interesting post. I’m constantly harrassed by telemarketers so it’s interesting to see the tricks they use.

    And no wonder car salesmen get a bad rap if that’s what they do.

    This is my first visit to your blog. I found you because you reviewed a post which I also reviewed on Stumbleupon. I love the theme and layout of your blog.

  25. Its helpful to remind ourselves that sparks of doubt, fleeting feelings of discomfort or full-blown negativity are no different than the echos of our own neurotic mind.

  26. While traveling on extended vacation I ran across all these people in BOTH Branson mo. and Las Vegas NV .
    They were giving away free tickets to shows (almost all the shows, I think you could pick 2 or 3)
    We went for it once, (never again).
    You’d get the tickets all right AFTER YOU HAD TO SIT THROUGH A VERY HIGH PRESSURE SALES PITCH, FOR TIME SHARES IN A RESORT.
    I would caution all travelers with a word of warning.
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE SHOW!
    Todd

  27. Hey everyone! Thanks for the personal perspectives, I love them. Hah, this post had an effect that I didn’t expect (although inevitable) - seems people are focusing on the irritation rather than the techniques ;) Not a complaint, I just found it funny.

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