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  1. Hi Albert,

    I loved this article today. I, too, suffered from a long depression. After working with a psychiatrist and medication, he helped me by explaining things very similar to how you’ve done. He said the medication was a temporary solution to help find the equilibrium, but after that it will be up to me to maintain it.

    Thank you for posting this; this reassures me that I’m on the right path!

  2. Emotions are a never easy mountain to climb, but you have put in much work to using them to help you become a better person. You deserve a lot of credit, showing people how to understand this hidden side of themselves.

    I still have trouble with my emotions. I validate them through my wife, wanting her to see my pain. Thanks for opening my eyes to this habit. The hard part will be noticing this and not dragging my wife into my emotional state.

  3. @ Russ: Thanks for the story, and for linking back to me. You are reassuring me that I’m on the right path too :D

    @ Karl: Thank you too, that is very high praise. Hehe. Recognition is the first and most important step, and you’ve done it already, so I I know you’ll be just fine. ;)

  4. Hi Albert, I tried to link this post to one of my posts “What’s In Your Head” @ http://howtoabutei.blogspot.com but I couldn’t seem to do it successfully. I should try again ;)) Thanks!

  5. Thank you for the link Abutei, I’m not sure how to do it myself, I don’t really use Blogspot very much. Thanks though :D

  6. Guilt! I hear you, Albert. It is such a brutally unnecessary emotion, and yet so pervasive. You know, I was at a retreat in Sedona, and I brought up an issue that I was feeling guilty over. Hale asked me quite simply, “And so how long are you planning to punish yourself for doing that?” BAM! That’s guilt, isn’t it? Punishing myself. That was the opening I needed.

    Well written post. And, hey, don’t you think that home refinance goes against right livelihood? :-))

  7. What a wonderful post!

    Thank you, a friend of mine pointed me in the direction of this article and it will really help me. :)

  8. So true, to pursue a thing is by the nature of the action to define that thing outside your grasp.

    Thank you, Albert, for your work and your openess.
    Many blessings and continued inspiration/guidance…
    CG

  9. Wow, this was a very deep post. I thought that meta emotion is a very advanced way of describing such feelings. The Greeks were very intelligent and It makes us admire them even more.

  10. @ Tom: *BOOM!* Hehe, reminds me of the latest South Park episode where Britney Spears blows her own head off.

    @ Springleap, CG, and Karn: Thank you - I’m glad you enjoyed my post :D , and I’m grateful that you are here.

  11. This is a well written post. I tend to let my emotions create emotions, and it can be a very nasty cycle to fall into. I have to make a concious effort to live in the moment and not let the emotion I want to achieve become the center of my attention.

  12. I know some people who cling to their problems. They talk about them as if they seek approval, empathy or sympathy. I sense these kinds of people are simply not ready to let them go. They have fear and other issues to work through. They will only likely do so in their own time. This is a very detailed article with lots of great examples. Keep smiling!

  13. @ NZ Tourism: Thank you for the comment and for stopping by :D

    @ Liara: Thank you as well. Clinging to their problems can be a very subtle trap, isn’t it? I would love nothing more than to be free of some of my pain, and yet the deeper I go the more subtle “holding-ons” I find. It’s quite a journey. I’m glad you’re here as well.

  14. Jellyfish

    I appreciated this post and it helped with some stuff I have been dealing with recently. I have a problem with Meta-emotions because I also have a naturally happy disposition most of the time and very low tolerance to negative emotion. This results in a build up of resitant meta-emotion when i feel bad because I want to get rid of it so much. For me, looking at your beleifs about emotion helps with this. Meta-emotions are caused by beleifs such as “i shouldnt feel bad” or “I should be happy” and many other subtle variations on that theme.

    I do think you need to clarifify what a meta-emotion actually is. For me the term only really describes emotions caused by your thoughts about your emotions such as when you beleive you shouldnt be feeling sad and then it makes you frustrated as well as sad. The mother who’s child had the sweets was suffering because of a cascade of negative situations that were caused by the one event, in each new situation her thoughts about it caused her to feel what she was feeling . This is not meta-emotion but basic emotion caused by her thoughts about the situations that happened as a result of being in a particular emotional state i.e. she found out about the stash and became angry, her reaction while angry was to ignore him, her beleif was that she shouldnt ignore her child and then she felt guilt also. It is more of a domino effect whereby each situation piles up.

    Are you into the Work of Byron Katie? I love that system for working through beleifs. The woman in that example could work through all the individual thoughts that occur with each situation and gradually remove the thoughts that cause the stress. When you don’t beleive “my son shouldnt horde sweets”, “I shouldnt ignore my son”, “I shouldnt be angry” and so forth there is no stress in the situation and a simple thing doesnt urn into a multiple car emotional pile up.

    Love the bloh btw. Kepp up the good work.

  15. Albert,

    I am depressed about being angry about being guilty about my envy about your successful discussion about being depressed about being anxious.

    Being aware of the problem as you suggest, I am deliberating whether to eliminate my anxiety by starting a stamp collection, or consulting an astrologer.

    Kidding aside, your post shows the trap of getting stuck in the emotions, and the importance of transmuting and transcending emotions. As you say, this comes about through awareness, and consciously cultivating the higher aspects of the inner man, and being rational rather than merely instinctual.

  16. @ Jellyfish: Thanks! You’re right, after I put up that story about my friend and her kid, I realised - wait there are a few other factors in play as well.

    I was recently aware of another similarity (I doubt it’s a meta, but similar enough.) It made me laugh. I was hanging on to my unhappy moments simply so I could blog about them! When I found out during a journaling / meditation session, I laughed my head off for a few minutes.

    So I guess what I’m trying to say is I’m not using the term meta-emotions in the strict CBT sense here, I was slowly going off topic.

    @ Reddy: HAH! That gave me a good chuckle :D . Thanks for your comments, I really love having you here.

  17. This article and life remind us many methods exist to work on coping with unhappiness. To move forward, a person needs to honestly assess if he or she unhappy and if so, set about figuring out exactly why.

  18. Thank you Liara, self introspection is perhaps the most important activity we can ever indulge in, as you say.

  19. Shilpan | successsoul.com

    Our emotions are byproduct of our perception of reality. That’s all it is.
    If we learn to change our perception, we learn to change reality and hence change our emotions from sadness to happiness in split seconds.

    Shilpan

  20. Hey Shilpan - Good stuff! I think that’s the basis of CBT, although some people say that we are born with a certain degree of sadness / pain inside us. I’m not sure if that view is justified, but it is certainly and interesting point, don’t you think?

  21. This is a very interesting article. I bookmarked it. I liked to read the “Guilt over depression” part.

  22. Thank you Vancouver :D

  23. What you see is what you get . it is all about perception. thanks for the good work . Great article

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