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  1. Ben

    Dude,

    Oh my god, that is the most inspirational thing I have ever read! No Joke!

    As a Buddhist I constantly seek an end to suffering and attachment in my life. However, I often find myself attached to things without noticed I have become attached. Great example for you, just logged on tonight to see if I can find help on a computer game I’m struggling with. Just happened to check my reader and saw your post. As I read it I realised I have become attached to this game. I’ve been playing on it for 2-3hrs a day for the past week. Whoa! I can’t believe it. Your post hit me like an arrow through the head, awesome. I can identify with loads of your post’s references to attachments, internet, TV, etc; and I’m a practising Buddhist. Just shows you how easy it is to become attached without knowing it.

    You are a true inspiration to me man, even though you might not realise it. You rock!!!!!

    Cheers man, I’m off to reassess my attachments without becoming attached to the notion of being un-attached to things!

    Peace

  2. All this is profound and true.

    Yet I wonder about the reverse. Those moments of joy. Is detachment really required for them?

    I don’t devalue moments of happiness, the more the merrier for me.

    For me the elated-calmness has come from reconciling the parts of myself that were fighting with each other. This is a freeing from attachment to identity but in a different way. This has been my path to joy.

    I have found no reason to devalue individuality. It sounds like the disciples of Buddha (or Jesus or whoever) had no trouble recognising. The hostility to identity in some Buddhism seems exaggerated to me. Non-attachment to something doesn’t mean that that something doesn’t exist. Our thoughts about something change, this doesn’t mean that the something isn’t there. (If there are only thoughts what is learning - even learning non-attachment.)

    Looking forward to the next part.

  3. @ Ben: Mate, I really appreciate your compliments. Glad you got value from this post, especially the more mundane stuff, as that was a late addition to the post. I noticed a lot of my mundane time-wasters drop away recently from all the internal work (reading entertainment blogs and so on), and I suddenly realised they were all connected. Thank you for the support!

    @ Evan: Good to have you here again! It is entirely up to you how you handle the moments of joy. I used to get attached to them, and then get upset (doubly so) when they inevitably went away. Now I am much more peaceful and let them go. So it’s just my personal experience, might be different for other people.

    Same with identity, I do believe that there are a lot of misinterpretations (although we can argue all teachings have been diluted to a certain extent), and the “purer” Buddhist teachings do not teach hostility towards the identity, more of a “right view”, seeing it for what it is. This way we do not attach undue importance to certain things. Thank you for the comment.

  4. Thanks Albert, I’m aware of there being different teachings about the status of identity in the different streams of Buddhism. I just don’t know enough to understand them. If you do and would like to write about it I’d love to read it.

    I do think greed/attachment leads to misery. But I think there are differences to. The 20th century spiritual teacher I admire most was Krishnamurti. He seemed to have conquered greed - he just ate whatever his chef prepared for him that was good for him - no cravings at all. And yet he chose to eat what was good for him - and so prolong his life. In this sense he was attached to health and long life. But I think this attachment didn’t lead to misery on his part. So I think there are maybe different kinds of attachment or maybe we need to come up with a different word.

  5. I think that’s the biggest misconception, from what I gather from talking to various people - taking care of your body, going after goals, and so on - can be done with zero attachment to them. It comes from more a curiousity and common sense perspective. People with no identity and attachment still have common sense. I touch on this briefly in my half written follow up to this post, I think it will make more sense, although it is just my personal experience.

  6. Albert, that was an excellent post. I’m glad you touched on the many different things that we can get attached to, from material possessions to identities.

    I’m learning to separate the “I am” from “I am X”. For example, I used to be very attached to the identity “I am a writer”, whereas now I prefer “I am, and as a result I choose to experience being a writer now”. Even though “I am a writer” was a positive identity for me, attaching to it didn’t give me the freedom to be other things as well, and especially didn’t give me the freedom to just be!

    Loving your blog, and looking forward to the next in the series!

  7. Please don’t stop!!
    This subject is my favorite!I think I’m attached to detachment!!
    I find it easy, even strangely enjoyable to detach from things, yet extremely difficult to deal with loss on the relationship level!
    I’m looking forward to the coming series.

  8. Shouldn’t we make a distinction between attachment and desire? Having desires is normal. Attachment however is more like craving for a particular outcome or object of ones desire.

    One can desire, yet not be attached to the outcome. That is the basis of the Law of Attraction - feel the desire, and release it, without being attached to the manifestation.

  9. Ben T

    Another timely and well written post.

    Currently I have a lot of attachments across my life - trivial things like computer games (like my namesake above !), internet surfing and media to distract and escape fears within myself.

    The more I have pulled away from these distractions, the more discomfort I have felt emotionally - removing these distractions has revealed these emotional discomforts, and encouraged me to cling tighter to the attachments as a safety blanket

    But very little of these attachments are desires - I have a good amount of wealth, but it is for the attachment of security, not the desire for riches to fund other desires. My attachments have suppressed genuine desires for a long time, and recovering that part of me might help with cutting away attachments.

    Needless to say, I look forward to more in this series. Until then, to conquer my distractions and attachments to internet surfing at work, I have been trying out a free web tool called “Rescue Time”. I recommend it to others having trouble focusing in there computer work and suffering from internet surfing addiction or attachment. Having something report honestly on your computer habits, and also track any improvement, is very useful for making progress I find.

    Thanks Albert.

  10. First, a general thank you to everyone, for the comments! Now on to the comments that had questions:

    @ Priya: Desire and attachment is a very subtle difference, or perhaps they are the same thing. I initially covered it as part of this post, but it got too big so I saved it for the next. I know what you mean, and it is definitely a question I had asked many times myself. Maybe the next part of this series will give a bit of my perspective :)

    @ Ben: Sounds like I might need Rescue time too, hehehe.

  11. I noticed the comment about attachment vs desire and thought I would chime in. It feels to me that desires move in and out rather easily, just like an emotion, as long as I don’t attach. My experience is that if I have a desire, like right now I would love a cup of coffee, and just let it be a desire, and give it no energy, it passes right out of my system. In a few minutes I won’t even think about coffee.

    But if I give that desire just a little bit of energy, just a little bit of attention, it starts to grow. I start thinking about how I can’t make it through the rest of the day, how tired I will be later, how important it is that I go to Starbucks NOW and get that coffee. My impression is that I’ve gone from just desire to attachment to the desire. I’ve fixed on it.

    It seems to me that the Buddha was driving at this very thing. Thoughts, feelings, desires, all pass in and out and move through us if we do not attach to them. It is the attachment that leads to suffering. What do you think, Alberto?

  12. Albert, awesome post as usual! It’s one of my favorite topics - practicing detachment is not easy. Observing ourselves in the moment of attachment - when something good or bad happens, for example - can be of great help. Those are usually the things the ego reacts to strongly - jumping for joy and not wanting that feeling to go, or getting all worked up in aversion. If we can just take a deep breath and notice our thoughts and feelings we’re already taking a big step forward to detachment.

    I’m looking forward to your post addressing desire and attachment. I think we can definitely have desire without being attached to it … in fact, we need desire in order to create anything in this life, right?

    @Tom - wow, great comment! You’re so right, whatever we focus on expands.

    Blessings,
    Andrea

  13. Hey Tom and Andrea - fantastic insights, as usual. Thank you :D I’ve got lots half written in my next post, so I won’t repeat them here. My thoughts are on this are not organised enough anyway, so apologies… I’ll put my opinions in the next post ;)

  14. Albert–Thanks, my friend. I’m looking forward to the next post.

    @Andrea Thanks for the compliment. And you are right, simply getting into a moment of observing ourselves helps immensely with attaching. We are denying the energy necessary to keep it going. I think that’s really what detachment means, to simply deny energy that turns simple thoughts or desires into beliefs and attachments. What do you think?

  15. As a seual abuse survivor, I suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder, and struggle with attachment. I had never thought of it being a good thing before, but maybe it is!

  16. Hi Angel,

    For me non-attachment has value because it enables compassion (for joy as well as pain!). When we are caught up in our own thoughts and feelings we don’t have room for others.

    Compassion means that it is I who respond. Dissociation can mean that I am unable to respond to the other person. I think it is in this sense that attachment is a good thing. I’d be interested to hear what Albert and others think.

  17. Hey Angel, first of all, can I just say that I am not a psychologist yet, and this is just my opinion - but I don’t think that DID is a part of the attachment that we are talking about here. I always recommend that one sees a professional (although it sounds like what you are already doing), for things like this. It is not something that can be fixed by reading on a blog or over the internet or anything like that. All the best, Angel!

  18. Our lives are full of examples where we subconsciously attach to situations, people and views of ourselves. It can seem like a tug-of-war to detach from what feels comfortable or appropriate at a given moment. And yet, constantly challenging your notion of ‘comfort zone’ is perhaps one of the ehalthiest and life-transforming things a human being can do.

  19. Thanks for another great post Albert! An excellent point that the concept of attachment is a fairly easy one to grasp intellectually but not at all easy to internalise, that’s certainly something I’ve struggled with.

    A few people seem to think they have attachment issues with computer games or the internet simply because they spend significant amounts of time on them. Is this necessarily so? I also spend quite a lot of time on the internet and play games sometimes, but it doesn’t bother me particularly if they’re not available to me for some reason - I just do something else. Am I kidding myself, or does the time spent on something give little indication of the degree of attachment?

    On a slight tangent; when I read “It is important to note the difference between cherishing ourselves, and cherishing a self-image – a subtle but important distinction; for some will misinterpret this as saying we should not protect ourselves when threatened”, something clicked with me. I haven’t quite pinned it down in my head yet, but I think you’ve moved me along a little in my thinking. Thankyou!

  20. @ Liara: Thank you, always happy to see you here!

    @ Shadowduck: Hi mate! Only you can answer that Q for yourself. Do you do it when you are stressed, when you are angry, or when something happens? If you stop doing it, and you don’t have anything else to do, how do you feel? Are you procrastinating? Are you using it as an excuse not to face a certain part of yourself?

  21. Great post!

    I’ve learned in my own life that there is a distinction between happiness and pleasure. Happiness is something that comes from within. It is permanent and never-ending. Pleasure is something that comes from the outside. It depends on comparison with others or validation from others.

    With this realization,I’m currently well under way with my own life simplification exercise. I realize that many things in my life were giving me pleasure, but not making my happy (and in some cases, making me unhappy!). I realized how importance living simply really is. We diffuse our focus with so much crap that doesn’t matter!

    Life is too short for that :)

    http://www.sethigherstandards......fe-update/

  22. @Albert: Me? Procrastinate?! How dare you! I’m just going to check my RSS feed, answer my e-mail (the ones I don’t put off for now, anyway), check in on my online games, check my RSS feed again, see what’s happening on the forums, check my RSS feed one last time then I’ll be back to tell you EXACTLY why you’re wrong about that! ;)

    Meh, I like procrastinating. Relaxation isn’t relaxation unless there’s something you really should be doing. :)

  23. Hi Albert. You’ve packed a lot of information into this post. I’m going to focus on the impermanence of things.

    You’ve eloquently pointed out that all things are temporary. It occurs to me that, while all things are temporary, so many of us focus our thoughts and attention on ways to establish permanency. We look for such things as permanent relationships (supported by vows such as “till death do us part”), permanent employment, permanent residence … or whatever.

    We’re socialized into thinking “permanence” in so many areas of our lives which then promotes and reinforces our sense of attachment to things and outcomes.

    If we were to embrace the notion that all things are temporary, and then come from that place, the degree of attachment you talk about would be greatly lessened and yet our sense of enjoyment of things would be greatly enhanced.

    What a wonderful world it is we live in. :-)

    Thanks for a terrific post.

  24. @ Ravi: Man that is brilliant. I could not describe the origin of happiness any better. I’ve been finding the same thing in my own explorations and could not find a way to describe it.

    @ ShadowDuck: I like procrastinating too :( It’s just so much more fun when you know you shouldn’t. I gotta explore how to overcome it, hehehe.

    @ Warren: Thank you for that - you really put into words what I struggle to. I keep telling my readers that often the real value is in the comments, and you’ve just given another great statement.

  25. Cyrano

    Hey Albert,

    sometimes, the more you write, the more I feel glad for opening my mind, but at the same time, it seems there is much for me to learn. Thank you :)

  26. MarbleSlinger

    All I can say is wow… I found you on twitter and read “The Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step”. I found it a wonderful and interesting post. After a few more articles I added you to my RSS feeds. I can honestly say I have never read anything on the internet that I could relate with so much. I’m not as educated as some of your readers seem to be (from your comments) but I can recognize words of wisdom when I read them. Thank you for writing and I look forward to not only reading future and past articles but actually making them part of my life. Again, thank you for giving your time to us all.

    BTW, it’s sort of sad that you have to have a disclaimer… but I understand.

  27. awesome post, i didn’t get the full of it but kool

  28. iaara

    Very good post. I’ve been reading you for a little while now, and I think this is one of my favorite topic too.

    It is sometimes difficult to start a conversation about suffering with people around me; not all of my friends like to read, and if they do, they’re just not interested yet in the quest for happiness. Your posts help me put into words some of my thoughts which makes it way easier to share!

    Iaara

  29. @ Cyrano: Thank you mate :D

    @ MarbleSlinger: That is a very high compliment, thank you. Yes disclaimers suck, but given that everything and anything can be misinterpreted, and that we are discussing emotions and so on, I have to be a bit more careful. It would be different of course if we were just doing technology news and so on.

    @ Blogger Mosaic: Thank you too :D

    @ Iaara: And a final thank you to you too. Again, that is very high praise, and I appreciate it.

  30. Thank you for this great article !!

  31. My pleasure Ankit :D

  32. Barbara

    Hi Albert,

    Normally I read your articles as soon as you post them.

    I looked at the title and saw the word suffering. The day I read it, my own suffering seemed intense. I thought I’d wait awhile before I continued, try to work out my difficulty.

    Earlier today, I was writing to myself before I arrived here to finally read the entire article. What I had done was very much like the exercise you describe.

    As I’m sure you can imagine, my experience of self discovery would be similar to your own. It seems we all follow patterns in thought and behavior and can’t really ‘escape’ readily.

    I got to the last of your article where I knew I struggled a lot, I felt it so clearly. Living vicariously. Not thru movie stars necessarily, but the desire to be able to do what seems only fictious characters or ‘others’ can really achieve.

    I do wonder why I would believe that and want to stay attached there.

    Thanks for taking me with you to find out.

  33. Barbara, good to hear from you. I’m glad that my mundane examples are well received! Don’t worry too much about it, you’re doing beautifully. Just keep doing what you are doing :D

  34. Normally, I would try to add something here, but I can only say that you’ve covered this subject quite well.

  35. Thank you mate! When I get out of my deadlines I will post the rest of this series :D

  36. kinda chances by.. and thats is a long read totally mind opening.

    -bookmarked-

  37. I have a friend who uses to joke asking “is there life before death?” A pretty cruel joke but in some cases true. The thing with “life is suffering” is also cruel and I personally don’t buy it. I have a bright view on life, you know…

  38. AriaB

    I’m very interested in the philosophy of detachment. I just read a book entitled Distant Suffering (link to ebooks and audiobooks version), which provides a different take on detachment; it actually promotes becoming somewhat attached to people and causes which are currently just distant reports from the media. The book says that this will encourage you to change things in distant places, to fight against injustice and make the world a better place. I am torn; inner peace or world peace first?

  39. Thank you Hardy, Roll Top Desk, and Ariab.

    Ariab, I do believe in inner peace first. This is just my opinion - violence, no matter on what scale (between 2 people, or between 2 countries), stems from inner violence. If someone is genuinely happy, and not just a fake smile, they will handle difficulties and disagreements very differently than someone who is unhappy. People who are unhappy also tend to look to other things - oil, money, or whatever - to make them happy. I do not pretend to know anything about why wars are started, but I do believe that the happier you are, the less likely you are to go to war to get these things. It doesn’t mean that you don’t want to earn money or anything like that, but you’ll be less likely to resort to invasion or hurting another person to get it, you’ll be more likely to do something that is mutually beneficial. It’s 3am here and I’m dead tired, so I hope that makes sense.

  40. Hi AriaB,

    “When on the horns of a dilemma look for the bull in between.” We are social creatures. Our individual actions affect our little part of the world.

    Having said this there are questions of scale. Even if hunger could be solved by each individual in the West shipping their surplus to Africa we would still need the shipping to be organised and to have a communication mechanism.

    Violence is generally a response to and justified by (perceived) powerlessness.

    As we encounter and remain open to the suffering of others, as we are appalled by the structural inequities and deal with our despair then we are dealing with our personal issues and personal sense of peace. “We learn to meditate in the tiger’s mouth.”

    We can’t not be engaged with the world.

    Trust this helps.

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